The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. I acknowledge I am emotionally attached to AE, it was the first quality brand I could access. Most of my pairs are 9E, which need thicker socks to fit really well (E is the standard Alden width at most European retailers). Not sure I'd feel the same today. I suspect 8UK would have been better, * **Enzo Bonafe 74945** 8UK perfect fit, snug around the heel and ball with a comfortable instep but still toe room, * **Enzo Bonafe 804** 7.5UK fits a bit better than 8UK, 8UK has a lot of heel slip in shell boots, * **Enzo Bonafe 062** 8UK fits similarly to 804 7.5UK. Besides, one isnt going to do something athletic in dress shoes so a relatively poor fit is not noticed most of the time. I would also recommend Thomas George Collection (based in Melbourne) and Crownhill Shoes (Spain), two quality brands who sit at the same price range of Morjas/Velasca and they do great bang for the bucket GW Shoes. Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. PS Presents 23: Arterton, LEJ, Marrkt, Fox and Rubato, Click on an image to enlarge. While I have no problem wearing RTW tailoring that is cheap relative to the bespoke stuff you discuss on the website, with shoes I found it impossible to go back to cheaper brands once I got my first EGs. Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. I realise this may seem like a simple choice, and maybe thats exactly what youll say, but Im only 25 years old and money is definitely a consideration. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. The soft cushioning of the insoles in Carmina shoes are some of the best in the industry today. The two brands are roughly the same level of make, with the price difference largely coming down to costs of labour in the UK and Spain. if I like a pair of suede Edward Greens chelseas and Meermin (or Allen Edmond or Loake) chelseas the same out of the box, would I enjoy the EG uppers longer because theyre of a higher grade suede? It would be nice to see more posts on the different plateaus (?) Looking forward to this. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. They didn't gave Detroit EEE in stock so I couldn't try it. Lofgren 110: Im aware that its not polite anymore to cherish them, but the Steadfast Chukka in 9.5 is my best fitting shoe ever. **Notes about feet:** Left foot pretty much bang on 9D, right foot maybe 9.25D. Perhaps more time and break in on the stiff leather sole would make it work. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. Guess it goes to show how individual it all is. Ie if you spend 500 on a pair of shoes youd probably be looking at circa 2,000 for your suit and 150 for your shirt. Meermin Burgundy Oxford Shoe || Men's US 8 UK 7 E. $50.00 + $32.48 shipping. Red Wing Postman: 10D, wore for a year but sold due to low volume toebox. Made in Spain. When weve returned to normal I might need a trip to Spain to try on a selection from Carmina, Meermin and the other brands suggested in this article. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Do you think that this pair are too smart: https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, Would this pair be better suited: https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113. Note: this is for the old China models. second chance thread), https://www.instagram.com/sartorially_inclined/, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/wholecut-boots-black-boxcalf-80518, Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. Renav Goods Co A-1 Unstructured 42: Good fit for summer, but maxes out at Chup sock thickness. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. If anything, I would say last and design are the least obvious things they are the easiest ones to mimic. I happily pay the very reasonable cost for a brand providing a certain width, a good service, retaining the lasts that suits me and other added values. Viberg 310E 8.5: Roomy in all directions but toe ball lines up with lowest part of the sprung toe forefoot and widest part of foot lines up with widest part of boot. Additionally the soles of Cheaney arent as hard wearing either, I have needed more frequent resoles. (My feet are only moderately narrow, so I dont have issues with normal width lace up shoes). Looking to buy (a much much cheaper alternative to aldens ) the Berwick plain toe derbyhttps://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6. The quality would probably tell more in the calf than the suede too, so makes sense to do it that way around. With its classic and timeless design, this last seems to resist the course of time. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. Other than more subjective things like style, it's fair to say this is the most consistent difference between English and Spanish shoes. Had the same experience with a pair of Oxfords from them and asked their sales rep about it. Please support us by using them. C&J E vs. F, does the wider shoe has the same heel fit/width than the smaller one? But it fits pretty good and I'd happily buy another pair of 1035. What type of heel stiffener do they use? Plain black Oxfords from Churchs who are near the rail station. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. Overall, would you have a favourite among these brands? I wear 9EE in AE (65 last) and want to try carminas. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. No more Stows for me. In addition to the Artista line you allude to, they also have a great customization program. Also I heard that they are actually trying to improve or change things constantly. Was no question about it in any of the cases). The shoe also felt very light, like it was cheaply constructed. Many thanks for your prompt response most helpful. They look good, a bit more fashionable than the others, but I also cant say Ive worn them enough to really get a sense of their quality. Probably also worth mentioning the Carlos Santos brand from Portugal in this price bracket. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. Avoid if you have a low instep or wide feet. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. (I think I prefer the darker colour of the first). One think really dont understand is why GC dilute their brand with the C&J RTW line instead of focusing on the Anthony Cleverley line which I hardly see being sold anywhere. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. Pretty good fit, but I need a kilty for some of the volume while new, will probably break in more and be able to be cinched down better over time. Both of my pinky toes stick slightly out, sometimes I say I have splayed toes, but it's really just the pinky toe on each foot likes a bit of room. Ive been reading a lot of menswear sites/blogs for years and this is one of the few that does not feel like sponsored content when you read it. When you see and feel the quality that you are getting with these shoes, Im sure that you will feel pleased with your expenses. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. Vass, TLB Artista, even Meccariello. Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. This means that in our Goodyear welted shoes you are likely to go down 0,5 size compared to what you wear in Meermin Hiro. First thing I noticed is that they write the shoe runs large and one should buy half a size smaller than usual. Carlos Santos are another example of value shoes of great quality to price ratio. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. Being from the UK my first proper pair of shoes at University were a pair of Loake 1880s they were fine and really all I needed at the time. Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. Japan: Scotch Grain, Otsuka, Miyagi Kogyo, Oriental. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Much better quality than todays Allen Edmonds at comparable prices. CARMINA belvtor.by - CARMINA 100% 10016 U www.clinicarinologica.com - 6.5 CARMINA ecovitaconstrutora.com.br 17,500 . In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. Barker has indeed several models in corrected grain, you find them under hi-shine on their own website. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. Youre right, the second pair are a little more casual, but I think either would be OK and personally I prefer the shorter apron of the former. Perhaps someone will find them useful: 1. RON 9: Terrible fit. There arent many industries where youre so often buying direct from the maker, and having little additional costs along the way. On the raw materials, you get oak-bark tanned soles, you get the top level of upper, and so on. In terms of quality, yes Trickers will be better and worth the money I think. TLB Artista full review here I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. The comment is only in reference to leather. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. Slightly tight on mid-foot for the first day. To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. Edward Green)? Thanks for taking the time to reply. Maybe this section could be titled North America rather than United States. @ Matty, if your initial post was relatively friendly and good natured Im sure you would have gotten a similar reply. Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. You get slightly better quality with Carmina at a cheaper price. Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. F. E. F. Extra-wide. The Shelby boot has a lower instep as a result of the pattern as well. The new El Salvador ones were too tight and I'd require a 10.5. Meermin offers loafers in simple colours of black, brown, copper, tan, and navy. The nicest pair of shoes I own is a pair of JM Weston oxfords (from their main line, not the Blake line), and I have to work to tell the difference between the two (Weston has shaped heels, for example). and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. (Portuguese shoemaker) I once dumped a veritable fortune on a pair of bespoke Berluttis that caused me so much physical discomfort I was left with the impression they had been designed by the Gestapo. They have a lot of life left in them. Morjas definitely makes decent shoes, even though I wouldnt recommend buying any pair with leather soles, as these are the worst soles Ive ever encountered. Like I said, it wont work for everyone, but might be an option if on a budget. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. Exceptional quality and the best quality shoes I own. Are there other difference? Cheers Michael, its hard to appreciate that price differential from over here in the EU. I have to disagree. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. But in the same moment, I realised this was unfair. I hope that makes sense. Brilliant article I really enjoyed that . Very comfortable throughout the midfoot. Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. The Jermyn Street stores are run by a franchisee. Having a shorter HTT than HTB allows me to wear it 1 down from by brannock. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. The toe length isn't excessive either. Trickers town shoes, especially the wonderful Belgrave adelaide, top any C&J shoe I have in terms of comfort and build. Carmina: one step down from C&J but higher quality than the others on the list. Good article. Non-sense. It is not surprising for people to give high praises to the Carmina shoes due to their high durability and quality build-up. Id have to say that, based on my personal experience, the C&J shops are one of the great strengths of the company. For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. Finally and most importantly, find a last that truly fits your feet. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. I recommend .5 down and just accepting that it is a wide pattern. I own a pair of JL Lopez loafers (995) and a pair of Cheaney Lewisham (380) and with the exception of the fact that JL claim a hand stitched apron, I cant see any qualitative difference whatsoever. A lot of influencers will also swear that it is box calf, which goes a long way to show either their incompetence or lack of integrity. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. The quality difference was like night and day and Id have no hesitation recommending the Loake 1880s as a good budget shoe. NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. A nice watch is also showing something. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Solid fit. Although it may be difficult to clearly see from the photos online, could I ask what you think of their the last/design of their chukka boots? Thanks for the response. Do you guys size down or buy your standard Carmina size? Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. Thanks Aidan. Putting that all aside, what do you think is the difference between mid-range makers (e.g. Not sure I'd feel the same today. Will it be in Spain 1 or Spain 2 in your list? He knows the market back to front and is a lovely gent. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. My girlfriend values their classic oxfords because they are not Goodyear and have soft insoles making them very comfy. There are some great savings on offer and often the defects are either unnoticeable or very minor. Alden Barrie 9D: Slightly snug, still comfortable, but my least favorite Alden last so far. In durability? The quality Crockett & Jones is now significantly better than Trickers, both sole and uppers. I think shoegazing is largely irrelevant since the information it provides can be gathered more reliably elsewhere. That sounds like a brand going from manufacturer pricing, as most Northampton shoes are, to designer brand pricing, with a lot more design and marketing built in. The honesty of the first 4 paragraphs bring home why , having read this blog for 8 years, at times it feels less relevant to myself . Everything from the finishing, to the thick upper, to the last shape seemed cheap and unattractive. Still a well-made shoe, but too much spent on marketing and retail. Oscar - 8 UK Carmina - Rain - 7.5 UK J. Fitzpatrick - TMG - 7.5 UK Meermin - Rui - 7.5 . Worth asking. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. But now I can confidently say this was the right choice and it is worth breaking that arch in to get fit and support of this level. Sure David. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. Thanks for the informative post. Carmina Rain Oxford - 9.5 UK. Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. Moreover, theres no industry standard in how to name these things so anyone can call anything what they like. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. They both have a very knowledgeable blog dedicated to shoes. This includes Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, Morjas, Myrqvist, Skolyx, Grenson, Carmina and TLB Artista and Id like to share some of my experiences. Porter?). I have a pair of Berwick chukkas and theyre pretty decent but they also dont feel as good to wear as the AEs (personally I wish Id spent more money on a higher quality make, but the store was out of C&J chukkas at the time). I have loafers on their Xim and they're too big for my by a hair. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Obviously also a difference style of shoe, but those companies spend so much on marketing and sales compared to these makers, that they are inevitably worse value purely from a quality point of view. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. Theyre a solid make with a little paid for the brand, and decent value in the States - though not elsewhere, where duties make them much more expensive. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. They may not be top tier but they certainly are hard wearing. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. These boots make me want to convert my entire boot collection to White's. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. It was a hard break in, mostly just the arch. Im happy I earn enough now to not care about this market segment any longer. These are sockless only. Finally somebody else who has experienced Meermin shoes as very hard to break in. Interesting selection. But they belong in a different category, a quality level down., France, Germany, Italy: Loding, Orbans, Velasca, Shoepassion. 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